Coopers Sparkling Ale - How hoppy is it??

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Coopers Sparkling Ale - How hoppy is it??

Post by Monkeybrew » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:21 am

Thinking of making this brew as instructions, but how hoppy is it?
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Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%

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Re: Coopers Sparkling Ale - How hoppy is it??

Post by math » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:37 am

It's not particularly hoppy - it more like a very malty, amber coloured lager.

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Re: Coopers Sparkling Ale - How hoppy is it??

Post by Monkeybrew » Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:09 pm

math wrote:It's not particularly hoppy - it more like a very malty, amber coloured lager.
Cheers for the quick reply, I did wonder if that was the case as its a very malt heavy brew.

Just as well that I plan to hop the sh!t out of it then :mrgreen:

MB
FV:


Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%

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Re: Coopers Sparkling Ale - How hoppy is it??

Post by Paddy Bubbles » Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:03 pm

It's like all Coopers kits - very little in the way of nice hop flavour & aroma. Coopers use the Aussie "Pride of Ringwood" hop which isn't very highly thought of.

It's a half-decent kit if made to recipe though. With an ounce or two of Cascade or EKG in there!

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Re: Coopers Sparkling Ale - How hoppy is it??

Post by Monkeybrew » Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:28 pm

Paddy Bubbles wrote:It's like all Coopers kits - very little in the way of nice hop flavour & aroma. Coopers use the Aussie "Pride of Ringwood" hop which isn't very highly thought of.

It's a half-decent kit if made to recipe though. With an ounce or two of Cascade or EKG in there!
I'm planning on a big steep of both Galaxy and NZ Cascade :)
FV:


Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%

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Re: Coopers Sparkling Ale - How hoppy is it??

Post by Paddy Bubbles » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:50 pm

Monkeybrew wrote:
Paddy Bubbles wrote:It's like all Coopers kits - very little in the way of nice hop flavour & aroma. Coopers use the Aussie "Pride of Ringwood" hop which isn't very highly thought of.

It's a half-decent kit if made to recipe though. With an ounce or two of Cascade or EKG in there!
I'm planning on a big steep of both Galaxy and NZ Cascade :)
Sounds nice dude! I've not used Galaxy, but I'll get around to it one day.

cellone

Re: Coopers Sparkling Ale - How hoppy is it??

Post by cellone » Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:52 pm

Monkeybrew wrote:
Paddy Bubbles wrote:It's like all Coopers kits - very little in the way of nice hop flavour & aroma. Coopers use the Aussie "Pride of Ringwood" hop which isn't very highly thought of.

It's a half-decent kit if made to recipe though. With an ounce or two of Cascade or EKG in there!
I'm planning on a big steep of both Galaxy and NZ Cascade :)
"as instructions" :lol: :lol: :lol: =D>

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Re: Coopers Sparkling Ale - How hoppy is it??

Post by Monkeybrew » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:03 am

cellone wrote:
Monkeybrew wrote:
Paddy Bubbles wrote:It's like all Coopers kits - very little in the way of nice hop flavour & aroma. Coopers use the Aussie "Pride of Ringwood" hop which isn't very highly thought of.

It's a half-decent kit if made to recipe though. With an ounce or two of Cascade or EKG in there!
I'm planning on a big steep of both Galaxy and NZ Cascade :)
"as instructions" :lol: :lol: :lol: =D>
Lol, when I say as instructions, I mean the quoted fermentables :mrgreen:
FV:


Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%

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Re: Coopers Sparkling Ale - How hoppy is it??

Post by Monkeybrew » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:23 pm

I've decided to mix the Sparkling Ale kit up to 23L, and then put 5L into a small FV and brew as intended and then hop the remaining 18L with 3 types of AUS/NZ hops.
FV:


Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%

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Re: Coopers Sparkling Ale - How hoppy is it??

Post by Paddy Bubbles » Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:46 pm

When I did this kit it was pretty early in my brewing career and I used an S-04 instead of the kit yeast. I'd never even heard of attenuation so ended with a pretty sweet beer. Dry-hopped the fock out of it with Cascade and NS, so that helped!

The yeast that Coopers supply with this kit is pretty dry, I think?

math

Re: Coopers Sparkling Ale - How hoppy is it??

Post by math » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:54 am

I brewed it with the kit yeast, it ended a little sweet. Really nice though.

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Re: Coopers Sparkling Ale - How hoppy is it??

Post by Monkeybrew » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:26 pm

Paddy Bubbles wrote:When I did this kit it was pretty early in my brewing career and I used an S-04 instead of the kit yeast. I'd never even heard of attenuation so ended with a pretty sweet beer. Dry-hopped the fock out of it with Cascade and NS, so that helped!

The yeast that Coopers supply with this kit is pretty dry, I think?
The supplied yeast that comes with the Sparkling Ale is the mixed one ( Coopers ale strain & a commercial lager yeast).

I have 2 spare sachets of this Coopers mixed yeast sitting in my fridge, so I will use the one that comes with the kit in my standard 5L batch and then use my 2 spares in the hopped 18L batch.

The 5L batch will be brewed in my north facing kitchen at a fairly constant ambient temperature of 20C with the yeast pitched dry.

As the Coopers ale strain can be fermented as low as 16C and obviously the commercial lager yeast even lower, I plan to make a starter with my 2 spare sachets and pitch and ferment at 17C in my brewfridge to hopefully produce a very clean brew [-o<

MB
FV:


Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%

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Re: Coopers Sparkling Ale - How hoppy is it??

Post by Monkeybrew » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:31 am

This the hopping that I am working on for the 18L of my Sparkling Hop Bomb :twisted:

Bring approx 6L of the Coopers Sparkling Ale wort to the boil in my 11L stockpot and then add the following........

15g of Galaxy Leaf Hops 15.0% AA @1min
15g of Green Bullet Leaf Hops 14.4% AA @1min
15g of NZ Cascade Pellet Hops 7.50% AA @1min

At flameout leave all hops to steep for 30mins.

Then dry hop with 20g of Galaxy, Green Bullet & NZ Cascade on day 10 for 4-5 days.

Do you think that it will be hoppy enough?? :wink:

MB
FV:


Conditioning:
AG#41 - Vienna Lager - 5.6%
AG#42 - Heritage Double Ale - 10.5%

On Tap:
AG#44 - Harvest ESB - 5.4%
AG#45 - Amarillo Gold APA - 5.2%

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