Turbo Cider Recipes, Methods and Taste Collection.

[CJR]

Thanks for the Sui-Cider recipe Pinto.

My take on your Sui-Cider:

Weapons Grade HS Cider (and HS doesn't stand for "High Strength" )

Juice used and Quantity: Tesco Everyday Value, 19 litres
Yeast Used and Quantity: Gervin GV4 yeast, two packets
Other Ingredients and Quantity: 10.8kg white sugar, 1 litre strong tea (8 bags PG Tips - The Strong One), 5 apples (3 blended, 2 chopped), 2 1/2 tsp Nutravit yeast nutrient
Vessel Used: 23L plastic fermenter, bubbler airlock containing "mixer" scotch whisky
Method of adding ingredients into vessel: Dissolved the sugar in AJ, added to fermenter. Topped it up with the rest of the AJ and 1 litre strong tea. Added the chopped apples and the nutrient. Sprinkled yeast on the top and stirred.
Starting Gravity: 1162
Color/ Cloudiness: Brown
Environment: Left at room temperature.
Temperature left at to ferment: ~15C

Progress report:

Gravity: ~1140
Colour: Clearish brown
Taste: Very sweet
Bubbling approximately once every 4 seconds.

How long do you think this will take to ferment? Taking all bets.

[oldbloke]

A lonnnnnnng time and it'll be horribly sweet

[bigdave]

WOWZA!!! That's going to be a seriously sweet cider! You're operating right on the yeasts limits so who knows how long or if it will ferment out as you'd expect. Even after fermentation, I wouldn't expect to be drinking it for 12 months or so.

[CJR]

Was planning to drink it straight off once it finishes fermenting to be honest. And I prefer sweet to dry personally. Using the Gervin GV-4 high alcohol wine yeast.

Right now a calculator puts it just under 3%.

[Pinto]

Like I said - it'll take a long, long time to ferment - the sui-cider took nearly a month but it got there in the end - the GV4 is hardy beast

It did end up sweet and as OB said, i'd reccomend you let it sit for a few months before trying to drink it - but its your cider, your way you'll know when you try the first bottle what you want to do with it.

Remember to bottle BEFORE fermentation ends if you want any kind of fizz - at the strength it'll be, secondary fermentation isnt really an option (you could force carbonate if you have CO2 and a corny)

[CJR]

Got 2 cornies, 2 handpumps and a 6kg CO2 bottle. I'm looking forward to christening one of the pumps with this stuff. Also, I'm unfortunately in student accommodation and I can't really leave things hanging around for too long, as much as I'd like to do so. When I moved out of student accommodation in my first year, I had so many bottles that the car was completely weighed down by beer I was conditioning.

[oldbloke]

It's not cider, either - it's a dessert wine

[lakeybloke]

Just rustled up this one as the Welch's Juice was on a half price special at Morrisons:

3.5 ltrs of Welch's Grape & Raspberry Juice
1 ltr of Welch's Grape, Pear & Apple Juice
200g brewing sugar
1 heaped teaspoon of champagne yeast
1tsp Pectolase
1tsp Yeast Nutrient
1tsp Wine Tannin

SG: 1.065

[oldbloke]

Just rustled up this one as the Welch's Juice was on a half price special at Morrisons:

3.5 ltrs of Welch's Grape & Raspberry Juice
1 ltr of Welch's Grape, Pear & Apple Juice
200g brewing sugar
1 heaped teaspoon of champagne yeast
1tsp Pectolase
1tsp Yeast Nutrient
1tsp Wine Tannin

SG: 1.065

Um, mostly grape, not really a cider - just a rather low-alcohol wine...

[Pinto]

Sounds a little like Lambrini

[AnthonyUK]

Lambrini is a perry. A shit one like Babycham

CJR - 10kg of sugar

and 1140 will be nearer to 30% than 3%

[CJR]

Lambrini is a perry. A shit one like Babycham

CJR - 10kg of sugar

and 1140 will be nearer to 30% than 3%

At last Lambrini isn't as bad as Iceland's Chardolini...

It was 10.8kg.

The OG was 1162. I've worked out the cider should come out around 13%.

[CestrIan]

Has anyone tried back sweetening TC with cologran - the cheap artificial sweetener from Lidl. It apparently contains saccharin and cyclamate! Never used it before but bought some today to try it out - Just wondered if anyone else has used this before and how much?

[Troutman47]

Yep, use it all the time!
I use the whole jar in a 20 odd litre brew.
All comes out fine!

[CestrIan]

Thanks for the info troutman. What do you define as fine tho'? Sweet, med-sweet, dryish?