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Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by Belter » Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:50 pm

I think the problem might be that welding is an art that you can't learn in a weeks course. It takes years to master right??

I fear that without an apprenticeship it's something I may never learn. My old man can weld, only arc, but he's reluctant to teach me... Anything really.

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Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by scotia » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:02 pm

Belter wrote:I think the problem might be that welding is an art that you can't learn in a weeks course. It takes years to master right??

I fear that without an apprenticeship it's something I may never learn. My old man can weld, only arc, but he's reluctant to teach me... Anything really.

If ye can gas weld you will pick up tig welding easily aye I agree the more practice the better especially on the thinner material, if ye have determination anything is achievable.
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Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by scotia » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:23 pm

My heat exchanger arrived this morning spot the deliberate mistake. I will have to extend the 3/4 bsp socket so the RJT fittings do not collide.

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Also go on with making the underback bottom

plasma cut pattern

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marked out in segments and folded

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Taking shape

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Braw fit ready for welding.

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darkonnis

Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by darkonnis » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:38 pm

Looking good!

I think there is probably enough bits online to learn how to weld. Of course, like learning anythign it would be a far cry from doing an actual course in welding. But I reckon you could learn the basics then its just a case of practice practice practice... Would certainly be cheaper to just go and buy a cheap welder (of your desired choice) and simply teach yourself using off cuts than it would be to go on a course. Wouldn't be quicker and it would be harder but it wouldn't be impossible.

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Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by Matt » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:00 pm

That's the absolute dogs wotsits. I would die a happy man if I could build that.

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Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by scotia » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:26 pm

Matt wrote:That's the absolute dogs wotsits. I would die a happy man if I could build that.

Then pass it on to who? would be a pitty not to get any use from it. :)
My main intention on building this is for my 13yr old son, he is showing an interest in brewing so thought I would build a small scale set up similar or as close to a 5/10bbl manual brewhouse and see if he is willing to spend the day brewing then clean up after the days event even although I shall be receiving the end product. :D
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Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by Belter » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:36 pm

darkonnis wrote:Looking good!

I think there is probably enough bits online to learn how to weld. Of course, like learning anythign it would be a far cry from doing an actual course in welding. But I reckon you could learn the basics then its just a case of practice practice practice... Would certainly be cheaper to just go and buy a cheap welder (of your desired choice) and simply teach yourself using off cuts than it would be to go on a course. Wouldn't be quicker and it would be harder but it wouldn't be impossible.

I honestly don't see welding like that. It's an art and if I did it is want to do it properly. There are a lot of things anybody can do well. I'm not sure anyone can weld.

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Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by darkonnis » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:22 pm

Well if you think about it, someone somewhere once upon a time way back when invented welding. No one on the planet had ever ever welded before. Then someone, was the first. Of course, things have advanced since then, things have moved on but someone had to teach themselves. If you're willing to put the hours in and look up enough and talk to everyone and anyone with knowledge on the subject, eventually you'll be able to weld well enough to build what you want. Will you be as good as a coded welder? No. Will you be good enough to weld pressure rated tanks? Maybe not. Good enough to weld some bits together? Don't see why not.

There are a lot of things anybody can do well, and this is one of them. Not like you're being asked to produce a 30cm thick syngas reactor. Just takes time, patience and a whole lot of learning.

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Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by scotia » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:32 am

darkonnis wrote:Well if you think about it, someone somewhere once upon a time way back when invented welding. No one on the planet had ever ever welded before. Then someone, was the first. Of course, things have advanced since then, things have moved on but someone had to teach themselves. If you're willing to put the hours in and look up enough and talk to everyone and anyone with knowledge on the subject, eventually you'll be able to weld well enough to build what you want. Will you be as good as a coded welder? No. Will you be good enough to weld pressure rated tanks? Maybe not. Good enough to weld some bits together? Don't see why not.

There are a lot of things anybody can do well, and this is one of them. Not like you're being asked to produce a 30cm thick syngas reactor. Just takes time, patience and a whole lot of learning.

If ye want to get anal about welding here ye go, all your answers in one go. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by darkonnis » Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:11 am

hahaha far from it. I just reckon it's like anything, if youre willing to take the time to learn there is no reason why you wouldnt be able to :)

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Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by scotia » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:01 pm

Leggo land pumps , well my solar pumps arrived today from China, feckin hell I did not realise they were that small :lol: :lol: :lol: they are dwarfed against the 1" RJT fittings I hope they can perform. I am having my doubts they will handle 1" pipe think I will have to look out for something else but will give them a trial first. :|

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Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by Fil » Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:08 pm

the solar pumps are ok with low flow rates circa 2-5l per min depending on the head.
to give u an idea of the performance,////,
mine generated a greater han 2l per min flow rate thru over 10m of 8mm to 10mm id tubing up 1.75m at boiling temps from the kettle thru a chiller into the FV with about an 8V supply from an easy dial tatoo psu. so possibly twice that with more voltage ;) wont win a race gainst a march may pump, but costs a hell of a lot less.. and can be controlled with an ebay tattoo gun psu easily and cheaply.
ist update for months n months..
Fermnting: not a lot..
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Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by setmash » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:20 pm

Those poor solar pumps lol, I quite fancy a pair of chugger pumps with the SS heads cheaper than March and look the nuts...nice vid here (this was my favorite brewery before I read this thread !!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTvwuTgPBJ4


I think they may be out of stock though....

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Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by scotia » Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:56 am

setmash wrote:Those poor solar pumps lol, I quite fancy a pair of chugger pumps with the SS heads cheaper than March and look the nuts...nice vid here (this was my favorite brewery before I read this thread !!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTvwuTgPBJ4


I think they may be out of stock though....

Where do these chugger pumps come from do you have a link?

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Re: 80ltr brew kit build

Post by bryanferry » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:40 pm

Great build Scotia and all for your 13 yr old?! Father of the century award is sure to follow. Shame it'll be a few years before he can try the fruits of his labour...
Grainfather conical standard bitter
Corny Keg 1 - Silver still spirits tonic water
Corny Keg 2 - Purple empty
Corny Keg 3 - Copper low % ale
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