Adding oats, when, how, what sort?

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Re: Adding oats, when, how, what sort?

Post by TC2642 » Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:28 pm

3kgs Pale 2kgs oats. I was tempted to add more but I thought I'd err on the side of caution. Haven't really thought about how much hops to add, I probably won't go for my usual 100gms because I want to taste the oats.
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Re: Adding oats, when, how, what sort?

Post by lord groan » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:45 pm

Holy Carp, that knocks my proposed 5% oats into the proverbial cocked hat. Please keep us posted, I'll be interested to see if the presoak stops the whole mash thickening into a set porridge

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Post by ArmChair » Sat Dec 07, 2013 8:55 pm

Really interested in how this will turn out.

Does the oats add any sugar for fermentation?
What abv do you expect?
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Re: Adding oats, when, how, what sort?

Post by 6470zzy » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:09 pm

TC2642 wrote:Right, in preparation for tomorrows brew I have just mixed up 2kgs of oats with 4ltrs of water and brought it up to 36-40oC. Letting it sit for half an hour with a sleeping bag around it, hopefully this'll work.

That is rather a large quantity of non malted oats. I trust that you also have lots of rice hulls to add to your mash. When using malted oats the rice hulls are not necessary due to the large portion of husk material that they have.

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Post by TC2642 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:50 am

6470zzy wrote:
TC2642 wrote:Right, in preparation for tomorrows brew I have just mixed up 2kgs of oats with 4ltrs of water and brought it up to 36-40oC. Letting it sit for half an hour with a sleeping bag around it, hopefully this'll work.

That is rather a large quantity of non malted oats. I trust that you also have lots of rice hulls to add to your mash. When using malted oats the rice hulls are not necessary due to the large portion of husk material that they have.

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Nope, just adding pale malt and see what happens. Following a lot from Clive la Pensee's writing. I may go for a 50-55% rest as well or not.

I'll boil for an hour with half the hops I would usually use and see if it works out.
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Post by TC2642 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:51 am

ArmChair wrote:Really interested in how this will turn out.

Does the oats add any sugar for fermentation?
What abv do you expect?
I would think so but I'm not totally sure, winging this one a bit.
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Post by Eric » Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:47 am

TC2642 wrote:
ArmChair wrote:Really interested in how this will turn out.

Does the oats add any sugar for fermentation?
What abv do you expect?
I would think so but I'm not totally sure, winging this one a bit.
Really interested too, having had problems above just 3%. I would have thought that standard breakfast porridge made from 2kg oats with 8 litres of water would next day be a fairly uncontrollable glutinous mass, so very keen to know the result at twice that thickness.

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Post by TC2642 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:18 pm

Right, got another 15mins before I run off, the initial mash was rather clumpy (as I expected). Mashing at around 62oC. It'll be interesting to see what the final OG of this will be like.
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Post by 6470zzy » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:08 pm

Did you mash for 60 minutes or did you go longer?
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Post by TC2642 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:12 pm

60mins, the batch sparge is a little on the low side for meat 70oC but hopefully it'll convert more of the oats and it seems to fit in with Pensee's recipe. I also let the oats sit for 2hrs instead of 30mins yesterday at 35-40oC.
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Post by 6470zzy » Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:45 pm

How did your iodine test come out?
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Post by TC2642 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:10 pm

Don't generally do one so can't say I'm afraid, the real test will be when I come to take the OG.
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Post by 6470zzy » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:26 pm

Right, well do keep us posted. This is an interesting brew :)
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Post by 6470zzy » Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:39 pm

For those of us interested in brewing with oats this is an informative article :

http://byo.com/stories/item/494-cookie- ... ters-unite

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Re: Adding oats, when, how, what sort?

Post by TC2642 » Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:57 pm

Right, just finished up and I've got an OG of 1039 so there was conversion but I'm unsure how much? Would maybe try the 55oC step next time but overall it worked out ok, no stuck sparges
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