suggestions for late hopped ipa

[Deebee]

Guys
I am looking to make a late hopped ipa early in the new year that will be drinkable around mid may.

I would live some suggestions please.
I am not a lover of the hugh citrus type hops like cascade. I think personally these are over used and i have kind of gone off them.
I have most malts and can get whatever hops i need from rob. . The brew will likely be bottled.

Go for it!!

[Rookie]

Challenger to bitter and goldings to finish.

[john luc]

For late hop beers I would suggest that whatever hop you choose do not use crystal malts in your recipe. I think that crystal does not compliment hop aroma but instead tries to compete with it. I put Jaipur forward as an example of a good beer that resists using crystal and instead lets the hops shine.

[Deebee]

I think this depends on which crystal, amounts and also yeast.
As for this thread i don't think the grist is the problem as i had originally intenden on pale and a little wheat. Am thinking more about the hops. Might try one of the experimentals i have on the way through as a single hop brew.

[fego]

Gone off citrus hops eh?

How about something like 96% PM, 2% caramalt/caragold and 2% wheat. Bittered with Delta and Chinook then late hopped (15 mins) with Chinook then steeped for an hour with more Chinook. Use a hop forward yeast.

I'd still be tempted to steep 30g of Citra to add even more aroma.

[Deebee]

Gone off citrus hops eh?

How about something like 96% PM, 2% caramalt/caragold and 2% wheat. Bittered with Delta and Chinook then late hopped (15 mins) with Chinook then steeped for an hour with more Chinook. Use a hop forward yeast.

I'd still be tempted to steep 30g of Citra to add even more aroma.

Was thinking of everything from 15minutes out. So max hop bomb type thing.
Yes have gone off the citrus hops a lot. A brewpub here had a tasting session 8 beers including stouts wheats and english bitters.... all with masses of cascade and a stout with nelson. Was awful. Put me off. The grapefruit tastw was way harsh. So i dont want to use them for a while.

[Rookie]

Yes have gone off the citrus hops a lot. A brewpub here had a tasting session 8 beers including stouts wheats and english bitters.... all with masses of cascade and a stout with nelson. Was awful. Put me off. The grapefruit tastw was way harsh. So i dont want to use them for a while.

The main problem with cascade hops is that everyone seems to use them as an attack weapon instead of a negotiating tool. A couple of years ago I had an APA at a beerfest that was really good. I asked the brewer which hops he used: centennial and cascades was the answer. He kept the hops in balance and made a great beer with cascades.

[Deebee]

Exactly. I think the cascade is just too overpowering.
So right now i want to stay away from them chinook nelson etc.

[john luc]

Nelson in a Stout no wonder you felt sick.

[Deebee]

Exactly. So imagine high bittering with citrus hops in beers og under 5%.
They all tasted the same. And for a day afterwards i tasted the hops if i burped... so... no citrus hops here for a while.