What malt extract?

[Chris The Fish]

Im about to possibly maybe perhaps do an extract beer.

I know the local homebrew shop does 3 muntons extract tins (light, medium + dark i thinks) so i was going to go for one of these.

Im attempting to get something like Everards Tiger, which is made from Maris Otter, some Crystal Malt and hop wise - fuggles and Goldings.

which extract do i go for? medium?

are fuggles bittering hops and do i use the goldings as aroma hops?

if i got some crystal malt as well as the extract what shall i do with it?

do i need to get a 20l boiler for this?

I dont want much do i!!

if anyone could help on any of the above i would be eternally greatful (and eventually drunk).

Cheers

CTF

[Dirty Davey]

Strictly speaking Fuggles and Goldings are both aroma hops, but can act as bittering hops if added at the start of the boil. They both add a slightly different flavour to the beer.

[Chris The Fish]

it looks as thought this tiger style beer is going to need some more research (good job ive a nelsons revenge on standby!).

i may even email everards for more info.

[bitter_dave]

Good idea to contact Everards.

I think it's fair to say that Goldings are more often used as aroma hops than fuggles, as they (arguably) have a superior flavour. Tiger best bitter is in the Real Ale Almanac, although the ingredients listed may be a bit out of date as it was published ten years ago. Anyway, in case this is of any use, the Brewery claimed the following ingredients in the beer in 1997 (word for word - some intepretation needed):

"Marris Otter pale Malt and crystal malt (88%), torrified wheat and wheat syrup. 26 Units of colour. Challenger and Fuggles for bitterness, Goldings for aroma; hop pellets; dry hopped. 26 Units of bitterness.

OG 1041 ABV 4.2%

[jaytee1]

Hi Chris

Ive just done my first extract, its in the fermenter bubbling as we speak, and it was great fun, def give it a go.

From my limited knowledge, I think that the extract you need, as daab mentioned, is the light or pale variety.

I bought myself a 25l boiling pot from an asian supermarket, and stood it on the gas stove, it does have a boiling ring but still took some time 1.5hours, to bring 18l to the boil!

In regards to which recipe to use, well im not sure which combination would make a Tigeresk beer, perhaps someone else can suggest a recipe.

Im liking the look of this one for my next brew, from M Ollosson book. Its called SAS

3750grms Malt Extract
325grms Crystal Malt

Challenger Hops (6.2%) 75grms (start of boil)
Golding Hops 15grms (last 15mins)
Irish Moss 5grms (last 15mins)

Golding hops 8grms (dry hops in cask)
Boil time 2 hours
18l in Boil
23l batch length
OG 1048
ABV 5%

Could be something that might suit your palette?

Have fun whatever chris

JT

[Chris The Fish]

cheers for the feedback, the recipe does look like a good starting point for a tiger-esk beer when you look at what bitter dave has posted, a few minor adjustments and you have a very good starting point.

i was considering doing all the boil in my biggest pot (9l) then making up the remainder with water in the fermentor, is this advisable? or is it really only practicable in a larger boiling pot (i come from leicester so there are plenty of asian supermarkets round here where i can pick one up if needs be)

thanks again.

Chris

[jaytee1]

Hey Chris

I was once told that for a 5 gallon batch you really need to be boiling a min of 3 gallons and then make the rest up afterwards with water. Not sure if this is gospel but the bloke ran a home brew shop!

Maybe someone else can comment on this.

JT