f00b4r wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:39 am
That is comparing apples and oranges though, you have no idea of the oxygen permeability versus a soft spile, it could be factors higher. Also there is no need to leave a headspace with oygen, especially with a plastic bottle (purge, cap on foam or just squeeze the bottle to remove it).
"Apples and Oranges"; I give you that, I wasn't thinking of using the bottles as "dispense" vessels (hell of a faff though, and what if you prepare too much, or too little?). Although the author of the suggestion spoils it in his following post "I transfer to a 2L or 5L mini keg ..." which is exactly what I thought was being suggested.
And I do have an idea of oxygen permeability of soft spiles: They are transparent to oxygen, we're not talking "semi-permeable membranes" here. Anyway, I was referring to moving rigid containers (like "mini-kegs") that have been partially emptied with a "soft-spile" in place (be it a "real" spile, a disconnect stuffed with cotton-wool, or a tube crammed with troll bum hairs). Which would require a pump, which the author of the OP hasn't got, which means I was out-of-order again bringing it up!
f00b4r wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:39 am
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Low pressure in the beer is only part of the charm of cask beer, there is a great post by Graham Wheeler on here somewhere where he speaks about the transformations beer goes through from the semi-controlled oxidation; before it is ultimately ruined by the same process.
Yes, I'm a believer of "sub-spoiled" and it gets a mention in that (yawn) "treatise". But check out that RLBS link that "Trefoyl" posted:
(Which then links "CAMRA April 2018 News" - "neutral on “cask breathers”). Which seems to imply CAMRA are not too bothered about it any longer; but I think they just caved in to Public (and Pub landlord) pressure?
Thanks for "quoting" the ramblings of a certain "McM". Because his posts are invisible to me, the quotes give me an opportunity to rant back! I think I'm handling the situation okay (so I'm self-deluded!), but Trolls are not particularly cuddly.