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HYDROMETERS

Post by brupaks » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:59 pm

I noticed some members are looking for accurate hydrometers. Brupaks has a range of Excise approved ones as follows: 1.000 - 1.030, 1.030 - 1.060, 1.060 - 1.090, 1.000 - 1.060, 1.050 - 1.100. The problem is of course they are precision instruments and are therefore not cheap! We sell these to commercial breweries for £45 plus VAT. If anyone wants one please let me know.

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Post by anomalous_result » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:17 pm

Are they calibrated at 20C?

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Post by TC2642 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:22 pm

My £2.00 hydrometer is pretty damn accurate, all you have to do is make sure that your reading in normal water hits 1000 at 20oC and measure the temp and gravity at the start of fermentation and adjust accordingly.

Saying that I have got my eye on a nice looking refractometer though. :roll:
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Post by Andy » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:23 pm

TC2642 wrote:My £2.00 hydrometer is pretty damn accurate,
How did you calibrate/test it's accuracy ? :wink:
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Post by TC2642 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:57 pm

Andy wrote:
TC2642 wrote:My £2.00 hydrometer is pretty damn accurate,
How did you calibrate/test it's accuracy ? :wink:
I figure if it hits 1000 in water at 20oC then its ok! :D
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Post by steve_flack » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:10 pm

Not really. All you know is that it's right at 1.000. How do you know it's right at any other reading?

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Post by TC2642 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:12 pm

steve_flack wrote:Not really. All you know is that it's right at 1.000. How do you know it's right at any other reading?
As said I am going to get a refractometer soon and would get one of these if I was going into brewing professionally, from what I have observed pre and post fermentation and how my beer and cider tasted it gets me in the right ballpark. Never had any problems with bottle bombs, oversweet or undersweet beers and its served generations of homebrewers well. Anyway I trust the British engineering of my cheap hydrometer. :)

Not that I'm against it, if you want to get one go for it, I don't feel the need.
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Post by prodigal2 » Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:09 pm

With a properly calibrated hydrometre how much does air pressure and brewing altitude come into play?
The reason I ask is that I brew at 600m(just under 2000ft)above sea level, and I have always had this niggle that it can be slanting my readings. I have also noted water boils between 97-99C verified across 3 different thermometers, depending on air pressure. :shock:
Although it is not really that important, it is something that a wonder about from time to time.

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Post by Scooby » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:31 am

TC2642 wrote:
steve_flack wrote:Not really. All you know is that it's right at 1.000. How do you know it's right at any other reading?
As said I am going to get a refractometer soon and would get one of these if I was going into brewing professionally, from what I have observed pre and post fermentation and how my beer and cider tasted it gets me in the right ballpark. Never had any problems with bottle bombs, oversweet or undersweet beers and its served generations of homebrewers well. Anyway I trust the British engineering of my cheap hydrometer. :)

Not that I'm against it, if you want to get one go for it, I don't feel the need.
From my experience with cheap refractometers they suck :!: so stick with your tried and trusted :wink:

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Post by TC2642 » Sat Oct 06, 2007 6:46 pm

Scooby wrote:
TC2642 wrote:
steve_flack wrote:Not really. All you know is that it's right at 1.000. How do you know it's right at any other reading?
As said I am going to get a refractometer soon and would get one of these if I was going into brewing professionally, from what I have observed pre and post fermentation and how my beer and cider tasted it gets me in the right ballpark. Never had any problems with bottle bombs, oversweet or undersweet beers and its served generations of homebrewers well. Anyway I trust the British engineering of my cheap hydrometer. :)

Not that I'm against it, if you want to get one go for it, I don't feel the need.
From my experience with cheap refractometers they suck :!: so stick with your tried and trusted :wink:
Cheers Scooby, I don't know too much about refractometers, may be best to stick with what I know.
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Post by anomalous_result » Sat Oct 06, 2007 7:17 pm

prodigal2 wrote:With a properly calibrated hydrometre how much does air pressure and brewing altitude come into play?
I'd wager very little. The force that's floating the hydrometer is that of the displaced solution, the density of which will not change much at all if you go to high altitude. eg your bladder doesn't burst on everest but a can of coke might as the compressed gas in it will try to expand.

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Post by David Edge » Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:03 pm

As said I am going to get a refractometer soon and would get one of these if I was going into brewing professionally
They are used for different purposes. You need a sufficiently accurate hydrometer if brewing professionally to convince HMR&C that you're not doing them. Also if you're stopping the fermentation two or three degrees short of the wort attenuation limit to get secondary fermentation in the cask right instead of adding primings it would be useful to be closer than a cheap hydrometer will get you.

The refractometer is of greatest use when investigating the performance of your mash system with its ability to take frequent quick readings. That said I use a refractometer for all measurements - but I ferment out and prime bottles and am not bothered about accuracy for revenue. Finally I assess beer sweetness/dryness/balance with my palate and those of my 'customers'.

As for 'refractometers suck', in my day, a good workman didn't blame his tools!

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Post by Scooby » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:21 pm

David Edge wrote:
As for 'refractometers suck', in my day, a good workman didn't blame his tools!
Just to correct your quote I said 'Cheap' refractometers.

As for the rest of your comment I will treat that with the contempt it deserves.

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Post by steve_flack » Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:36 pm

Scooby wrote: As for the rest of your comment I will treat that with the contempt it deserves.
Ooooo....handbags at the ready.

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Post by Vossy1 » Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:34 pm

:lol: :lol:

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